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Casshern2

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Finally got this huge one up. VRMT-001 MUTEKI 10th Anniversary Special W Entertainer VR Entertainer and Dream Reverse 3P Experience

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https://www.akiba-online.com/thread...-vr-entertainer-and-dream-reverse-3p.1838382/
 

maschi

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@Casshern2 or anyone else, do you know of a player that can view videos that have a circular cropping correctly, not entirely sure what the technical term is, but it's Side By Side and video is inside a circle. It seems a lot of recent movies have been released like this and I can only guess it's it keep file sizes down.

With Skybox, there's heavy warping around the edges since the player is expecting regular SBS which fills the screen without any (or minimal) cropping.

Some examples:

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Virtual Desktop's video player. I just did.
 
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You're wrong because because even if two people or ten people download your torrent uploading 10GB is enough. Quick explanation:
Let's say you have three users download your file and the file is split inside the torrent into 3 parts (simplification, real torrents have a LOT more parts/pieces). You seed the file using super seeding. Here's what happens:
You start uploading part 1 to person A. Part 2 to person B. Part 3 to person C. These people then share the parts between themselves, so A shares part 1 to person B and C, B shares part 2 to A and C, C shares part 3 to A and B.

The result is that you uploaded 10GB once but now after you uploaded the file once the availability is 4 (you and three additional people) and these additional three people can continue sharing. Of course if you're limited by bandwidth at this point you would stop seeding and let everyone else handle uploading to other people. You could configure the torrent client to stop seeding once there are other seeds.

This only works if people actually help seed or else the torrent dies because the original uploader can't seed and the other seeds stopped seeding. I don't think this would happen here though because other people (like me) have unlimited bandwidth and can seed for longer times.

I prefer torrents too because it's more user friendly, no captcha/download limits (even with premium you have download limits), with torrents it's completely up to the users.
See, though, this is my fear. I spotted this on a recent post by @LoliKing25 :

"Been on this seeding for 3 plus weeks now. Just thought I would update my experience for those interested. Still havent gotten the full copy yet. 3.87GB downloaded so far. Uploaded 25.35GB thus far (on 10 ggiabit box). Still going slow, and get an update of typically 1KB/s for a few minutes every couple days."

That's practically allowing others to use (upload) 3x the bandwidth it takes to just get the title you're after, and he isn't even done getting his whole title.
 

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See, though, this is my fear. I spotted this on a recent post by @LoliKing25 :

"Been on this seeding for 3 plus weeks now. Just thought I would update my experience for those interested. Still havent gotten the full copy yet. 3.87GB downloaded so far. Uploaded 25.35GB thus far (on 10 ggiabit box). Still going slow, and get an update of typically 1KB/s for a few minutes every couple days."

That's practically allowing others to use (upload) 3x the bandwidth it takes to just get the title you're after, and he isn't even done getting his whole title.

He's a leecher though, him uploading 25GB doesn't really matter as the swarm (aka other people) would distribute everything eventually anyways. He could limit the upload to 1KB/s if he wanted to. If he hasn't gotten the full copy yet that means no one has downloaded the entire file. This then means the uploader is limiting their upload speeds or has a bad connection. Which begs the question: why are they uploading? :p I read that thread and it seems like it's a seedbox... so why is it slow? The whole point of a seedbox is that it's fast...

Also you're assuming everyone has a bandwidth cap, that isn't the case, and if you had a cap you could limit (while downloading) your upload speed to 1KB/s or whatever, check the torrent every day until the file has a bunch of seeds, then download it and stop seeding once it's done. This is the leecher hit and run style that is not recommended for healthy torrents (although if there are dedicated seeders it doesn't matter much). But you can do it. But on normal torrents (if some time has passed)as a leecher you download a lot faster than you upload. Of course if you get it right at the start it will be limited by the uploaders bandwidth and you have the choice to share (good leecher) or not share (bad leecher).

Anyway, why is that your fear? That shouldn't affect you at all as an uploader because... you're the uploader. :D You could just try uploading a torrent and see if it works out or not (that is if you're interested).
 
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He's a leecher though, him uploading 25GB doesn't really matter as the swarm (aka other people) would distribute everything eventually anyways. He could limit the upload to 1KB/s if he wanted to. If he hasn't gotten the full copy yet that means no one has downloaded the entire file. This then means the uploader is limiting their upload speeds or has a bad connection. Which begs the question: why are they uploading? :p I read that thread and it seems like it's a seedbox... so why is it slow? The whole point of a seedbox is that it's fast...

Also you're assuming everyone has a bandwidth cap, that isn't the case, and if you had a cap you could limit (while downloading) your upload speed to 1KB/s or whatever, check the torrent every day until the file has a bunch of seeds, then download it and stop seeding once it's done. This is the leecher hit and run style that is not recommended for healthy torrents (although if there are dedicated seeders it doesn't matter much). But you can do it. But on normal torrents (if some time has passed)as a leecher you download a lot faster than you upload. Of course if you get it right at the start it will be limited by the uploaders bandwidth and you have the choice to share (good leecher) or not share (bad leecher).

Anyway, why is that your fear? That shouldn't affect you at all as an uploader because... you're the uploader. :D You could just try uploading a torrent and see if it works out or not (that is if you're interested).

Just be aware, that using torrents might get you into legal troubles. It depends on the country you're living in. Sometimes, the penalties for uploading/distribution of copyrighted material is punished much harder than the download. The amount of damage is easibly calculable for downloads (= the amount to buy the file --> < 100$, so not worthy to prosecute as the damage is too low/the lawyer won't make enough money of it). The amount of damage for uploads is sometimes guessed on the amount of clients, which were connected to your machine/torrent client (no of connections + some random numbers * some assumed damage = several thousands of dollars). Some companies are offering those services/run fake torrent clients (they don't download/upload anything, but just collect connection data (ips)). If you don't use an anonymous vpn or your home connection directly, you might receive a letter of cease & desist. This has happened more often for music/movies in the past, but I wouldn't rule out porn completely. Afterall that's also a reason one click hoster are so successful. It's just not worth to prosecute the downloaders/it's harder to find out than to have the download deleted. The oneclick hoster would also have to store ip first(not sure if all of them do) and work together with government agencies. The whole torrent business is pretty automated, so those companies were collecting your ip and added them to a list. The next step was to contact your internet provider to obtain your address and name and send an almost automated letter of cease & desist --> easy money for those companies without any real effort (just creating the template of the letter once). Chances are pretty high, that you can fight/avoid this, but you'll have to take a lawyer for that, so it'll definitely cost you money in this case. Some people are using tor in order to hide their ip, but that's not that fast due to issues related to bandwith. Also some vpn providers do collect connection data as well and do hand those out to government agencies, so you just can't pick any provider. Personally I don't use torrent as the risk/amount of trouble is just not worth it overall.

This information is pretty old (several years), so especially the legal status might have changed. Some legal departments were getting spammed with those requests in the past and they were also pretty angry about this, as it was blocking a major amount of their time. This also lead to some funny behaviours:
  • Development of (hacked) clients which don't upload anything
  • Moving files out of the torrent folder, as soon as the download was completed in order to reduce the risk
Torrent clients normally do upload data/the chunks you've already downloaded completely, so you're always distributing illegal content (if you don't change the configuration of the client).
 
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Casshern2

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He's a leecher though, him uploading 25GB doesn't really matter as the swarm (aka other people) would distribute everything eventually anyways. He could limit the upload to 1KB/s if he wanted to. If he hasn't gotten the full copy yet that means no one has downloaded the entire file. This then means the uploader is limiting their upload speeds or has a bad connection. Which begs the question: why are they uploading? :p I read that thread and it seems like it's a seedbox... so why is it slow? The whole point of a seedbox is that it's fast...

Also you're assuming everyone has a bandwidth cap, that isn't the case, and if you had a cap you could limit (while downloading) your upload speed to 1KB/s or whatever, check the torrent every day until the file has a bunch of seeds, then download it and stop seeding once it's done. This is the leecher hit and run style that is not recommended for healthy torrents (although if there are dedicated seeders it doesn't matter much). But you can do it. But on normal torrents (if some time has passed)as a leecher you download a lot faster than you upload. Of course if you get it right at the start it will be limited by the uploaders bandwidth and you have the choice to share (good leecher) or not share (bad leecher).

Anyway, why is that your fear? That shouldn't affect you at all as an uploader because... you're the uploader. :D You could just try uploading a torrent and see if it works out or not (that is if you're interested).
My fear is having others user 25GB of my bandwidth before I finish download 5GB of what I'm after. 30GB of bandwidth used for a 5GB file/title. No thanks.
 

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Just be aware, that using torrents might get you into legal troubles. It depends on the country you're living in. Sometimes, the penalties for uploading/distribution of copyrighted material is punished much harder than the download.
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Yes, but this is the same for subyshare/filejoker, though they could potentially give out personal information to authorities if ordered to. For torrents I've seen more sites targeted than users. And this is JAV porn which is a niche of a niche in niche distribution (torrents) so to me it doesn't seem like something to worry about right now. If you're paranoid you could remove any watermarks in the releases and reencode before uploading.

And in reality if they are aware that there's pirated material, rather than targeting some users, spend money and resources to try to get something back, a better plan of action would be to introduce a service style website (like netflix) to turn pirates into paying customers.

My fear is having others user 25GB of my bandwidth before I finish download 5GB of what I'm after. 30GB of bandwidth used for a 5GB file/title. No thanks.

When would this happen realistically? I could see this happening if:
1. You start downloading a 5GB file.
2. You leave your computer on for a month not touching it and seeing what's happening in the torrent (going on vacation maybe)
3. You come back and realize that the uploader stopped uploading for some reason (maybe the cat ate the network router) so everyone's stuck at 3GB.
4. Result is, you uploaded the 3GB of what you've got to a bunch of other people and used 25GB upload while only getting 3GB of a 5GB file.

So yes, it's possible, but about as likely as Santa Claus getting stuck in your chimney. You would have to go out of your way to end up with that happening, for example limiting your download speed but not limiting your upload speed. Usually when leeching you will have much less than a 1.000 ratio (especially because most connections have higher download speeds than upload speeds). And if you're concerned about bandwidth you can just limit your upload to 1KB/s or something, you will maybe download slower (because you're not seen as a sharing leecher and not prioritized for sending data too) but you will download the file without uploading much at all. And if it's an old torrent without many leechers sometimes you can't upload at all because you're the only leecher around.
 

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Yes, but this is the same for subyshare/filejoker, though they could potentially give out personal information to authorities if ordered to. For torrents I've seen more sites targeted than users. And this is JAV porn which is a niche of a niche in niche distribution (torrents) so to me it doesn't seem like something to worry about right now. If you're paranoid you could remove any watermarks in the releases and reencode before uploading.

And in reality if they are aware that there's pirated material, rather than targeting some users, spend money and resources to try to get something back, a better plan of action would be to introduce a service style website (like netflix) to turn pirates into paying customers.



When would this happen realistically? I could see this happening if:
1. You start downloading a 5GB file.
2. You leave your computer on for a month not touching it and seeing what's happening in the torrent (going on vacation maybe)
3. You come back and realize that the uploader stopped uploading for some reason (maybe the cat ate the network router) so everyone's stuck at 3GB.
4. Result is, you uploaded the 3GB of what you've got to a bunch of other people and used 25GB upload while only getting 3GB of a 5GB file.

So yes, it's possible, but about as likely as Santa Claus getting stuck in your chimney. You would have to go out of your way to end up with that happening, for example limiting your download speed but not limiting your upload speed. Usually when leeching you will have much less than a 1.000 ratio (especially because most connections have higher download speeds than upload speeds). And if you're concerned about bandwidth you can just limit your upload to 1KB/s or something, you will maybe download slower (because you're not seen as a sharing leecher and not prioritized for sending data too) but you will download the file without uploading much at all. And if it's an old torrent without many leechers sometimes you can't upload at all because you're the only leecher around.
The first and last time I tried using a torrent years ago I was after an ISO for a Madonna title. I'm sure I was doing something wrong and ended up waiting for weeks just to see that others had uploaded Gigs more than I had. I got my title but never did it again. Plus, I'm not one to get what I want and then leave everyone else hanging. Not to mention being left hanging because of others. I'm just not comfortable with that whole scene really.
 
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