IIRC laser not disc that moves in an ODD.This is all opinion, so I'm not debating anyone, just explaining how I see things for my personal use.
I thought they got pressed instead of burned at a factory? At least they do that for Playstation games.
This is how I see it for my uses: HDDs have moving parts. Multiple moving parts. Optical media are like solid state drives. No moving parts. In fact, the disc is one whole part that gets moved (while spinning). Sure, the drives that read them have moving parts, but at least when those fail my files remain intact. I just need to get another reader/burner. And, much like HDDs that sit on the shelf, so, too, can discs. And if I happen to knock over my discs I'm a magnitude less likely to shock the discs enough to cause damage to them like a fallen HDD.
As for cost, $24 for roughly 1.1GB of storage is pretty comparable to a 1TB external drive for around $45 or a 1TB internal drive for around the same price. Throw in redundancy and I'd spend roughly half the money using BD-R. I would miss the speed in retrieving or reading from the HDD, but I'm a patient man.
Another thing I considered, since you rightfully mention "it is hard to see how portable HDD can fail", is that if I have a title I want to view and it is on an HDD with 200 other titles, every time I turn it on to read or transfer from it, I put the other 200 titles at risk. Yikes! I'd rather put 15 other titles at risk.
It's an experiment, to be sure. I've always used HDDs. And I know it is my fault for not having backups, but for a hobby (an AWESOME hobby, I know) I'd rather not spend 2X the money for an eventuality with those costs involved.
+1Recordable CDs, DVDs and Blurays are as unereliable as HDDs, if not more so... burning disc at home is not same as burning disc at the factory.
I used to store my camera RAW files on DVD-R. But a few years ago I switched to external HDD.
The key with backing up on portable HDDs is redundancy: don't store files on just one drive, especially important files. Even with redundancy, HDDs are a far more cost-effective, more compact solution than BD-Rs...
But it is hard to see how portable HDD can fail anyways, especially if used only for backup. I only plug my drives in when transferring files. HDDs fail eventually the more they operate, but if they are mostly just sitting on the shelf, unused, then drive failure shouldn't be a major concern.
IMO HDD is more reliable than optical media.
Anyone else ever consider switching to DVD-R or BD-R as their primary archive storage?
As someone who was notoriousy into downloading onto external drives (8tb), BD-R is now cheaper than external and internal drives by far. I pay 170 for 8TB drive, or 128 for 8TB worth of blu ray, which is about what 8TB drives used to cost before Thailand and China spiked their usage, and lowered output, plus shipping blocks by CCP. On top of that, losing 25GB is better than losing 8TB at once. I can drop kick a blu ray/dvd/cd, and its fine. Can you really say the same for a hard drive (ouch!)?Got in my little black 24 disc holders. Aside from the advantages of no moving parts and any single death being only 20+ GB of lost data vs 1TB…
· I paid $26 less
· I have 233GB more space
· I can archive 132 more avg size SD titles (or 62 more avg size HD titles)
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For me that outweighs the possible inconvenience of having to switch out discs to get at multiple titles.
Nice! BD-R definitely wins when you need your JAV to survive the zombie apocalypse.As someone who was notoriousy into downloading onto external drives (8tb), BD-R is now cheaper than external and internal drives by far. I pay 170 for 8TB drive, or 128 for 8TB worth of blu ray, which is about what 8TB drives used to cost before Thailand and China spiked their usage, and lowered output, plus shipping blocks by CCP. On top of that, losing 25GB is better than losing 8TB at once. I can drop kick a blu ray/dvd/cd, and its fine. Can you really say the same for a hard drive (ouch!)?
One thing that really psychologically screwed me up, was (ironic enough, considering my old profession of Digital Archival on HDDs) instant access to data (jav/porn included). The ability to find exactly what I wanted (or didnt want) contributed to my mental instability in an unforeseen way. I greatly took it for granted that I had this stuff, and it became too common-place for me. I hope that with discs, I mentally restrain myself to at least having to browse through hundreds and thousands of discs before finding what I want (shortly, all will be re-bagged in plastic cpp sleeves, and given a printed out mailing label with the contents of the disc on it - all for ease of use). Its easy to manage (for me) when you keep a list of what you have (for JAV, I have a simple word document that just lists all the JAV I have, so I can ctrl+f to verify I either do or do not have a copy), though this is easiest to do towards the start of one's collection (starting from scratch gave me this opportunity, though I admit that for my western stuff (specifically the individual videos I have on discs, rather than full siterips), I haven't really been keeping up with a list, like I should, though my siterips are easy to organize and create a list for - just that the single videos can be a pain because of all the typing one must do).Nice! BD-R definitely wins when you need your JAV to survive the zombie apocalypse.
Price and physical stability is not the only driving factor though. I have all of my JAV on spinning disks so that I can access anything at any time. Having to catalog and manage physical media, especially when looking for that one particular scene or actress is just not fun. Much better to throw it into a video management system like Plex, Emby, Jellyfin, or Stash so you can search on names, keywords, IDs, etc and then just kick back and watch.
(Currently have ~18 TB right now, all cataloged, organized and accessible via Jellyfin)