JAV actresses with natural breasts

sendagaya said:

Yu Shinoda is fake? What? Those are some really good fakes then.

Anyone have examples of jav actresses with natural looking fakes like that? In American porn the implants are usually pretty obvious but I always thought almost no JAV actresses have implants.

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No, Yu's are real (99% sure, as I never touched them lol). Fake boobs, even the most well done, you can see they are fake. Yu lost a bit of weight since her debut, so her boobs changed a bit as well. You are right about JAV idols, most of them don't have implants. Among the 36 current actresses I follow, there is only Shoko whom probably have fake boobs.

ding73ding said:

There are examples of "natural looking fakes", my personal fav is Shoko Takahashi. She is not obviously, but definitely fake. And she is also in my all time top 5. I'm also highly suspicious of Yua Mikami, but she has publicly denied it many times.

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Why are you so sure Shoko has fake boobs? Could you please provide some proof or explain why you think that.
It seems I don't have the best eye for discovering fake boobs

Yuka Minase does have a perfect pair of natural breasts

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darksider59 said:

No, Yu's are real (99% sure, as I never touched them lol). Fake boobs, even the most well done, you can see they are fake. Yu lost a bit of weight since her debut, so her boobs changed a bit as well. You are right about JAV idols, most of them don't have implants. Among the 36 current actresses I follow, there is only Shoko whom probably have fake boobs.

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I would be highly suspicious you can follow 36 active idols who are mostly real. If somehow there's a way to get medical history, I would guess more than half of them had some surgical enhancement in their breasts. If you count face and other areas, I would guess more than 95% of established (career more than 1 year) active idols had something done.

Most of them do look quite real, so as far as porn is concerned that's all that I care.

I'd like to mention Anri Okita.
I know that there is a lot of controversy surrounding her breasts, but I've never seen sufficient proof for them being fake.

ding73ding said:

I would be highly suspicious you can follow 36 active idols who are mostly real. If somehow there's a way to get medical history, I would guess more than half of them had some surgical enhancement in their breasts. If you count face and other areas, I would guess more than 95% of established (career more than 1 year) active idols had something done.

Most of them do look quite real, so as far as porn is concerned that's all that I care.

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I don't watch girls like Anri Okita and other western looking actresses. From there, it's not so difficult. Japan isn't Korea, plastic surgery isn't mainstream at all. There are cases when it's obvious, we talked about it above, and when you see girls like Hasumi Kurea, Asuka Kirara and Nao Wakana, there is no doubt. You check before/after, there are differences that even aging can't do (making the chin sharper).

I didn't upload pics for all actresses I follow, but here are some of them:


The only thing is that some have more makeup than others because pics are from events, twitter or pro photoshoots. Some have lenses + eyelid tape to make their eyes bigger, so nothing to do with surgery. Tons of stuff are available for girls and their look, without going under the knife.

earljames said:

Why are you so sure Shoko has fake boobs? Could you please provide some proof or explain why you think that.
It seems I don't have the best eye for discovering fake boobs

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I am a bit too lazy to extract the evidence and post. But if you have watched every single scene of hers multiple times like I have you would spot the multiple times (multiple is important because one "weird" frame is not enough proof) her tits become just slight misshapen in an obvious way. Despite the misshapening is obvious, thankfully it's not severe, and very infrequent. When I first saw it, I stopped myself mid-stroke, and a different part of my brain lit up... "Oh her tits are enhanced, wow... [PROCESSING PROCESSING] what do I think about that? Am I surprised about it? Hmm maybe I shouldn't be surprised... Do I still like her? Yeah I think so... Look it's only for one second, and they are bouncing beautifully again, wait don't overthink it, let the little brother downstairs decide..." Switch mode, little brother says "Wow big brother, I almost lost a bit of hardness there, watch it! Now let's get to partying!!!" ...

I just scanned her recent covers to try to remember which vids was it... but no, I have very vague memory of how the scenes look but can't match any vid cover to the scene. Best guess is MIDE-500, -551, -582, and perhaps -560 just because that's a boob-obsession vid. Esp. in -560 I think even if you spot evidence of surgical enhancement in there, I think watching the whole vid the balanced conclusion is "her boobs are super yummy".

Look I don't have a talent for detecting fake boobs. Most importantly I don't make a big deal of it. So for many borderline cases I just let it be, don't overthink it. Shokotas remains one of my all-time tops, despite being "fake" if we insist on that wording. Even for someone totally fake like Mio Kimijima, my cock can 100% reliably reach orbit insertion with her, so what's the problem? The point is a girl can be fake in two ways, (1) you spot a misshapening during a scene or even worse on the cover, it's a cancel launch even before the rocket is fueled (2) you compare a before/after pix/vids you say hey she looks different. But sometimes case (2) would be undetectable without a side-by-side, meaning if you look at only current looks, there's no (obvious) misshapening. See the little brother doesn't think, he's only looking at the here and now. Long term memory is stored upstairs and better shut off during launch. With the obvious case (1) including most American porn stars, there's no need to even pump fuel in the rocket.

Someone mention Arni Okita, well actually I am quite convinced her boobs are real. Let's say I'm 80% confident her boobs are 100% real. Her other parts, can't say. But real doesn't equal fav, little brother doesn't like oversized udders.

Oh one more wrinkle (heh, wrinkle) 100% real boobs don't mean never been under the knife. Super big melons like Okita and Hitomi might have been surgically reduced or tightened. Obviously it's their main asset so it's not to decrease the asset, but I can believe they need surgery to reduce/reverse sagging.

darksider59 said:

I don't watch girls like Anri Okita and other western looking actresses. From there, it's not so difficult. Japan isn't Korea, plastic surgery isn't mainstream at all. There are cases when it's obvious, we talked about it above, and when you see girls like Hasumi Kurea, Asuka Kirara and Nao Wakana, there is no doubt. You check before/after, there are differences that even aging can't do (making the chin sharper).

I didn't upload pics for all actresses I follow, but here are some of them:

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The only thing is that some have more makeup than others because pics are from events, twitter or pro photoshoots. Some have lenses + eyelid tape to make their eyes bigger, so nothing to do with surgery. Tons of stuff are available for girls and their look, without going under the knife.

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Unfortunately we will never be able to settle this debate with evidence. Otherwise, I would bet serious money more than half of the pix you posted have gone under the knife.

OK I can agree the cosmetic surgery trend is much more comprehensive in South Korea than in Japan. Meaning stopping a random woman on the street, you have a much higher chance to catch a "real" woman in Tokyo than in Seoul. But for entertainment industry, from the most uptight "serious" reporter to the most lewd porn, both countries are about the same, nearly 100%. Historically SK learned it from Japanese entertainment world. For JAV I could believe if a 6-month short career young debutante to be real if her boobs aren't very large and she doesn't stay in industry.

Walking the streets of Tokyo it's shocking how many women have sub-B cup tits. Even knowing East Asians aren't very busty, Japanese are especially disadvantaged. Back only 10-20 years ago, Japanese men's taste are for B- to C- cups which is easily satisfied by the natural distribution in the gene pool. But now men's taste have gone to D-, E- and up, there's a serious mismatch. So a naturally busty girl would be high demand for girlfriend, wife, mainstream entertainment and other life choices. For for JAV, the gap between demand and supply is huge. In summary, the rule of "too good for porn" applies.

Obviously these girls don't go to the extreme the Korean and Chinese models or Western pornstars do but it wouldn't surprise me if most of the busty girls had implants or a lift. That's not to say they had no boobs before but I'd imagine they weren't nearly as full or nearly as high up on the chest.

What do you guys make of Yura Kano though, the S1 girl?

https://www.s1s1s1.com/actress/detail/1042219/

Seems fake to me, but I'm kinda just 70-80% certain. Could use a 2nd opinion.

ding73ding said:

Someone mention Arni Okita, well actually I am quite convinced her boobs are real. Let's say I'm 80% confident her boobs are 100% real. Her other parts, can't say

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ding73ding said:

Unfortunately we will never be able to settle this debate with evidence. Otherwise, I would bet serious money more than half of the pix you posted have gone under the knife.

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Now, I have to agree with earljames. Saying Anri Okita's boobs are probably natural and then saying most of girls went under the knife ...
I had penpals as beautiful, there are japanese teachers as beautiful as those girls and they didn't do plastic surgery. And with camera angles, it's easy to make boobs look bigger (same for the ass centered movies). My sister isn't asian, but she has Arina Hashimoto's body's with boobs maybe 1,5 bigger (2x max). She didn't do PS, I would know it. Slender girls can have medium/big boobs, even asian girls. Just check Jihyo from Twice. Even if she's korean, you'll see that an asian girl can have big boobs.

fwildly said:

What do you guys make of Yura Kano though, the S1 girl?

https://www.s1s1s1.com/actress/detail/1042219/

Seems fake to me, but I'm kinda just 70-80% certain. Could use a 2nd opinion.

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Natural.

Miina Kanno

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striker01 said:

Miina Kanno

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Wow, those are literally perfect. It looks like all the body fat went to her breasts

darksider59 said:

Saying Anri Okita's boobs are probably natural and then saying most of girls went under the knife ...

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Well ok that deserves a bit of explanation.

For any girl over G-cups (JAV soft standard) and if there's no visible signs of misshapening after say 20 full length vids, my default position is to believe there's no implant. (which is not to say there never been any knife-ing). So you get a lot of super busty top idols getting my vote of confidence: Anri Okita, Hitomi, Julia, Rion, Aimi Yoshikawa, Matsuri Kiritani, even the crazy impossible case such as Sakura Miura. Some of them are so huge they are literally monstrous (not my type), others have thicker balanced figure (Kiritani), some of them simply defy biological and physical science (Julia, considering her age).

If the boobs size is that large (well above average for even the most busty races), the only meaningful surgery is implant in the gland tissue (sorry not gonna research the proper jargon for this discussion). This type of breast enhancement is quite easy to detect. And since I haven't seen anyone post any gotcha-pix for them, I tend to believe. Well... unless there's some crazy new medical technology stem cell DNA reprinting 3D something that I don't know about.

But for C- to F-cup range of girls, the sub-muscular type of implant can easily boost up their tits a good inch or more which might be two cup sizes, from very forgettable B- to pretty pretty D-cups. It's would be a solid kickstart for a 2-5 year career and sufficiently undetectable to not alienate male JAV fans. That's why I am suspicious of non-suspicious girls such as Koharu Suzuki.

So I'm counter intuitive, trust the few exceptional big melons, doubt the majority normal-looking breasts.

I'm not 100% sure, but I'd like to add Sayuki Kanno. Maybe someone can verify wether they are natural.

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I'm having some doubts concerning Yuka Minase, there is just something too perfect about them,
like there is something underneath the skin. I can't point my finger on it they are not squishy enough maybe.

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ding73ding said:

Well ok that deserves a bit of explanation.

For any girl over G-cups (JAV soft standard) and if there's no visible signs of misshapening after say 20 full length vids, my default position is to believe there's no implant. (which is not to say there never been any knife-ing). So you get a lot of super busty top idols getting my vote of confidence: Anri Okita, Hitomi, Julia, Rion, Aimi Yoshikawa, Matsuri Kiritani, even the crazy impossible case such as Sakura Miura. Some of them are so huge they are literally monstrous (not my type), others have thicker balanced figure (Kiritani), some of them simply defy biological and physical science (Julia, considering her age).

If the boobs size is that large (well above average for even the most busty races), the only meaningful surgery is implant in the gland tissue (sorry not gonna research the proper jargon for this discussion). This type of breast enhancement is quite easy to detect. And since I haven't seen anyone post any gotcha-pix for them, I tend to believe. Well... unless there's some crazy new medical technology stem cell DNA reprinting 3D something that I don't know about.

But for C- to F-cup range of girls, the sub-muscular type of implant can easily boost up their tits a good inch or more which might be two cup sizes, from very forgettable B- to pretty pretty D-cups. It's would be a solid kickstart for a 2-5 year career and sufficiently undetectable to not alienate male JAV fans. That's why I am suspicious of non-suspicious girls such as Koharu Suzuki.

So I'm counter intuitive, trust the few exceptional big melons, doubt the majority normal-looking breasts.

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Thank you for sharing your point of view on that. I agree that if there is no sign of misshapeningafter a certain amount of vids, the girl probably didn't change anything. But, for example, what if Anri did PS before entering the JAV industry ? I don't know if she was a gravure model before, if it's the case, that could be an explanation.
For Hitomi, they are natural, it's just a a genetic thing. Plus they are dropping like crazy so no doubt about them. Julia, her boobs' size changed a bit through the years, which is completely normal for natural boobs (weight loss, diet, ...). Same for Rion and Aimi.

Overall, a girl with any cup, if she gains weight, she will probably have bigger boobs. If she looses weight, her boobs get smaller. Nothing to do with PS. Koharu has some belly fat. If she does a diet like girls in fitness preparing for a muscle definition contest, she will loose fat and her boobs will become small (because it's just fat).


The girls I follow didn't suddently got bigger boobs. Tsubomi is a good example.

jamesjones01 said:

I'm having some doubts concerning Yuka Minase, there is just something too perfect about them,
like there is something underneath the skin. I can't point my finger on it they are not squishy enough maybe.

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Yeah, they kinda have the bowling ball effect from bellow. Too round and perfect while jiggling.

darksider59 said:

Thank you for sharing your point of view on that. I agree that if there is no sign of misshapeningafter a certain amount of vids, the girl probably didn't change anything. But, for example, what if Anri did PS before entering the JAV industry ? I don't know if she was a gravure model before, if it's the case, that could be an explanation.

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Look mon ami, I am happy if you agree with me, I am ok if you disagree with me. But drives me crazy if you agree with me and then in the same sentence contradicts it! It doesn't process!

My argument is that if we are looking at a big pair of melons, and we have seen enough video footage of them swinging and swaying and boining and prodded and bounced squeezed and kneaded and sometimes even rope-tied, then any implant would become self-evident. Ex silentio, lack of negative evidence become positive proof. So this analysis doesn't look at change over time. It is taking the collection of available footage to prove 100% real tits. Time is not a factor! If Anri got implants anytime during her career or before, and they are still in there, they would be detectable.

But for the normal-chest or mildly-busty girls lack of misshapening footage is not sufficient positive proof of 100% real.

Also gravue doesn't count at all towards lack of negative evidence. It is cheap enough to delete all photos with misshapening and/or Photoshop the evidence away. It is not practical to video-brush away misshapening if we have over 5 hours of cumulative fucking footage.

ding73ding said:

Look mon ami, I am happy if you agree with me, I am ok if you disagree with me. But drives me crazy if you agree with me and then in the same sentence contradicts it! It doesn't process!

My argument is that if we are looking at a big pair of melons, and we have seen enough video footage of them swinging and swaying and boining and prodded and bounced squeezed and kneaded and sometimes even rope-tied, then any implant would become self-evident. Ex silentio, lack of negative evidence become positive proof. So this analysis doesn't look at change over time. It is taking the collection of available footage to prove 100% real tits. Time is not a factor! If Anri got implants anytime during her career or before, and they are still in there, they would be detectable.

But for the normal-chest or mildly-busty girls lack of misshapening footage is not sufficient positive proof of 100% real.

Also gravue doesn't count at all towards lack of negative evidence. It is cheap enough to delete all photos with misshapening and/or Photoshop the evidence away. It is not practical to video-brush away misshapening if we have over 5 hours of cumulative fucking footage.

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Well, I forgot something lol " if there is no sign of misshapeningafter a certain amount of vids, the girl probably didn't change anything since her debut". And for Anri, she says on Twitter that they are real. But I have doubts, here, they don't bounce like real ones. Or they are really firm which is curious because the rest of her body isn't at all.

And to know if a girl got PS AFTER joining the industry, another easy way to "verify" is to see if she's taking a break for couple of weeks (or few months). And even with that, scars can take up to 2 years to become invisible (yes makeup can be used to hide it). None of the actress I follow did that if I remember well (always at least one movie per month). Plus, on a girl with small boobs, implants are even more easy to see. There is a loli who got implants last year, it's very obvious.

darksider59 said:

But I have doubts, here, they don't bounce like real ones. Or they are really firm which is curious because the rest of her body isn't at all.

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See even video "evidence" is very subjective. Same clip, different people make different conclusion. For you they look doubtful, for me the same clip is evidence there is NO implant. I also invested 2 minutes just now and find a clip of her being fucked in a supine position, for big melons the upward boin is a difficult test. I would admit hers is a bit less floppy than I expect for her size and age (27 at the time of the vid). But overall I am satisfied with both clips. They do flop and swing and sag sufficiently convincingly. A bit too firm so I can't be 100% sure, but overall, combining with the footage (zero incidence of misshapening) that I remember, I'd give her 75% vote of confidence.

One lady that still give me trouble is Mio Kimijima, one look at her I said out loud "Nexus-6, pleasure model". She looks like a CGI-synthetic human. But by now I've seen more than 10 scenes of hers (probably only 1/20 of all the vids she's putting out) and I still haven't seen any misshapening, which is totally outside my expectation. E.g. by chance I re-watch MIAE-150, e.g. 21:10~21:59 and 25:00~32:00, it's quite positive proof of no-implant. So could it be her sin is only she is too perfect looking (BTW I am still convinced she had a lot of minor cosmetic surgeries, mostly skin tugs etc, but no breast implants). But contrary to my first impression, her tits do flop around... so actually all these debate isn't pointless... I have just managed to convince myself to watch more Mio Kimijima.

Soooo.... for me the three mortal sins of breast enhancement: (1) misshapening, (2) failure to flop, (3) wide base-to-volume ratio. The misshapening is by far the worse sin and very common for Silicone Valley porn stars. The failure to flop is also much much worse in American porn stars than JAV. The wide base problem is more common for JAV and becoming more and more common.

A random example is Noa Mizuhara 水原乃亜, the stat line is not arousing suspicion, only C-cups, actually visually they look bigger than C, anyway that's the official stats. But just looking at the covers (I don't think I've seen her vids yet) I get very suspicious, very wide base but not very large breast volume. They don't flop around and not a lot of tits for the grabbing. I can't tell if I just don't like this kind of boob shape or they look and feel fake to me. Many newcomers (since maybe late 2017) have these kind of boobs, not sure about reality, but in my mind, they shove them all into the fake bin.