Is Donald Trump The Anti-Christ?

Snowyfox

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As someone still living in California, I can agree with much of that sentiment. A lot of taxes and regulations, and lots of hoops to jump through to get a business going. Most people have no idea what the implications are of the laws that get passed, neither do they bother to vote.

There have been a few businesses that have been migrating out due because of the cost of doing business here in California. Toyota/Lexus Main Headquarters come to mind, as they are set to move out of Torrance, and into Texas. It's a miracle in itself that Elon Musk has managed to keep SpaceX and Tesla thriving here, in the state.

And from my line of work, it's interesting to hear the dichotomy of opinion on Trump. Usually anyone in their mid-20's or younger do not have a favorable opinion of Donald Trump, because what they know about him is based on the past 2 years of media coverage. The flipside are usually those who are mid 30's in age, plus. They seem to think much better of Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton, because on one hand, they've seen the media and the politicians make blatant lies for 30~40+ years. But also, they can see the dramatic change in coverage from how Trump was portrayed in the 1980's, 1990's, the 2000's, and what a 180 turn the tone has changed once he got involved in politics.

California really, has to be the only state where Clinton won the popular vote. If we were to take California and New York out of the equation (arguably the 2 most economically prosperous and most cosmopolitan states), Donald Trump would have essentially won the popular vote. Looking at the whole country, about 2600 different counties pulled for Trump, as opposed to 490 counties for Clinton.

That aside, it's hard to tell if there is going to be any real change in the country. As it is, the military industrial complex, the Federal bank, and various corporate interests have too much pull over the country. No matter who is President, what can you do if the senate, congress, and the supreme court are all bought and paid for?
 
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WillEater

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Difficult for any politician that's not "Bought and Paid for".
Near his death, Truman said he only had one regret.
He was very sorry he had created the C.I.A., as they were out of control.
Rumor on the street is, the CIA has taken over both the Dems and the GOP parties.
The result of that, anybody that's elected is the CIAs man.
Bill Clinton was the CIAs guy down in AK. Bush senior was the head of the CIA.

It goes on for days.
 

EzikialRage

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If it was Ted Cruz, John Kasick or any other republican as president the mainstream media would be attacking them. The mainstream media and entertainment industry is mostly ran by liberals and they don't like republicans no matter how liberal or conservative that republican is. When Bush was president they ruthlessly made fun of Bush. They criticized every little thing he did.They gave soap boxes to anti-war trash. They gave a soap box to fake veterans who trashed the military,which is why they came up with that stolen valor act. They made movies demonizing Bush. In California. they wanted to name a sewage plant after Bush. Just like with the anti-Trump conspiracy loon theory of Russia and Donald Trump collusion they are doing today as a means of trying to de-legitimize his presidency. They did the same thing to Bush. They accused him of stealing the election. When that didn't work they accused him of masterminding 9-11.When that didn't work they accused him of lying for war and when that didn't work they accused him of going AWOL when he was in the national guard. They gave soap boxes to anti-war trash who protested outside his home in Texas. When he was president they acted like they cared about every death in Iraq and Afghanistan,but were practically silent when Barack Obama was president. Barack Obama was treated with kid gloves by the mainstream media.They only ones to go after him were the conservative media and even then it was conspiracy loon hosts like Alex Jones that bought into the birther conspiracy. So I am sure someone will bring up the fact that Fox news and talk radio went after Barack Obama.

Californians put themselves in that position by voting for those liberal loons or by refusing to vote them out of office by voting for someone else. Its why they are infested with illegals.Its why they have high taxes and absurd regulations. Its because of their idiotic eco-tard policies of not doing brush control why they tend to be wildfire capital of the country. If Californians do not want to take the time to go and vote then that is on them. I hope those Californians who are sick and tired of shit that is going on in California do not leave California because I do not want them infesting the rest of the country with their nonsense.
 

fwildly

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I'm going to chime in on this despite not being American just to point out that Trump is well and truly an idiot who really should not be allowed to lead any country. Political differences aside, he is a buffoon who has no idea how diplomacy works and just shoots his mouth off without thinking of the consequences.

Take the most recent Qatari diplomatic incident for example. Honestly, what the hell does he think he is doing, poking his nose into it and stirring shit up? Does he even know what he's saying? Does he truly know what is going on in the Middle East?

If I was American, I would undoubtedly be face-palming at how stupid his support of the anti-Qatar coalition is. As I'm not, all I can do is go "WTF were Americans thinking when they elected this idiot?"

If you're a Trump supporter and you do not realize just how stupid that was, I'll refer you to the Pentagon who have instead declared that Qatar is a valuable ally and has in fact just approved the sale of 12 billion worth of F15s to them. Oh dear...shouldn't Trump be veto-ing the sale, as that would be akin to selling American technology to terrorists? This is a distinct case of the POTUS saying one thing while the military leadership is saying another, and the White House has to figure out a way to paper over the differences and make up a bunch of excuses.

Its an open secret that this whole dispute is about the Saudis being unhappy that Qatar is trying to break out of their sphere of influence. Its has fuck-all to do with 'sponsoring terrorists' which is incidentally a hypocritical accusation considering the links between Wahhabism and ISIS.

Why the fuck does Trump want to stick his big fat nose into a diplomatic spat? Because he's an idiot who thinks too highly of himself, that much is obvious.
 
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fwildly

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American foreign policy in a nutshell.
True, but Trump takes it to a whole new level.

Most presidents have at least had the common sense to watch what they say, and that includes even George Bush Jr who was widely regarded as one of the thickest to ever assume the post.

This guy...for him to say one thing but his diplomats and military to say another...it makes me wonder what kind of circus is going on at the White House.
 

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And that's exactly what he did.
That is not what he did. Sadam has had a history of having and using WMDs at least 15 times. Sadam refused to let UN inspectors inspect certain facilities thus giving the impression he was hiding WMDs. Practically everybody both democrats and republicans was saying Sadam has WMDs and this before Bush was even president. Troops did find WIMDs in Iraq.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_weapons_program
http://archive.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918
 

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That is not what he did. Sadam has had a history of having and using WMDs at least 15 times. Sadam refused to let UN inspectors inspect certain facilities thus giving the impression he was hiding WMDs. Practically everybody both democrats and republicans was saying Sadam has WMDs and this before Bush was even president. Troops did find WIMDs in Iraq.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_weapons_program
http://archive.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=15918

Look at the dates on that wikipedia page. And try to look up when Bush invaded Iraq. Ahem.
Second link is ridiculous. Bush did lie. Just read these articles, would you?
http://www.leadingtowar.com/claims_facts_noweapons.php
https://mic.com/articles/101420/no-iraq-didn-t-have-weapons-of-mass-destruction-after-all#.qLsomEVUo
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-glyn-williams/at-least-trump-got-one-thing-right_b_9612422.html
 
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Ceewan

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Actually he has done a pretty good job so far. Not the most diplomatic of personages but he has a solid business sense that has been a benefit so far. He makes enemies of the media though but most of them seem to be bought and paid for nowadays. Chances are they mostly always have been, it is just more transparent now.
 
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