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Check out Japanese singer/songwriter hitomi's upcoming album cover.
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hitomi gave birth to her first child, a girl, in December of last year. Obviously, these photos were taken shortly before. She was 32 at the time, and is now 33.
Thirty-something women are the best.
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I don't understand men who dislike non-pregnant women. I also don't understand men who dislike pregnant women. Pregnant women are hot! In their own way! It's a different sort of beauty.
Besides, it's hard to complain about the glow that being pregnant does for a woman's face, and ditto for the breast enlargement in the third trimester. :D
Tell me about it! When I lived in New York, I had a Japanese friend who was pregnant, and, god, was she hot. She was hot to begin with, but she was even hotter when she was pregnant. So while she was in full bloom, my family and hers went to the beach together. I explained this phrase here, but that was a case where I seriously 目のやり場に困った (Me no yariba ni komatta).
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See, I wouldn't think that that would be so bad, just because everyone stares at pregnant bellies (which are surprisingly rare per 10,000 population!) and there's very little which would give away to her that you were looking at her belly and being aroused vs. just looking at it.
The cleavage example you mentioned earlier, though, is a good example. And on the topic of pregnancy / new mothers, I think another great example of a social no-no would be with lactating women who are either (a) breastfeeding in public or (b) leaking a little bit and beginning to create stains on their blouses/shirts. It's bad enough (in our society) when a man is caught looking at a woman's boobs, but when she's breastfeeding or spilling milk it really gets you into trouble. I don't think it should, but then again I'm more sexually expressive than most people I know, so I guess my thoughts don't count for much. lol
Bit of a tangent ...
I really hate the fact that we live in a world where the common thought is, "If a man stares at a woman's clothed breasts, that is uncouth." I regret that we do not live in a world, instead, which believes that a woman, like all human beings, has choices, has free will; and one of the choices she's free to pick from is which wardrobe she'll wear. If a woman really doesn't want people to stare at her large boobs, she has options. Breast reduction (NOOOOOOOOOOOO! >_<) is one. Wearing a loose-fitting garment like in Islamic culture is another. Binding her breasts closer to her body like in martial arts is a third option. If she says, "No! I don't want surgery. I like having big boobs! :P I just don't like having people like you look at them all the time. :P", then I have no sympathy, really. She's being prejudicial towards me ("you're not good enough to look") and trying to impose her own will onto mine and every other man or woman on the planet when really this is something that SHE needs to address. Either get the surgery, change your clothes, try to hide them somehow, or else forfeit your right to complain about people looking. And for fuck's sake! Take it as a compliment, will ya!? Be glad they're not staring at your hideous face or stubby leg or claw-hand! Be glad they're staring at your boobs because they're attractive instead of repulsive!
I dunno. Just me, maybe.
How does this tie in? Well, sorta, it ties in to the breastfeeding thing I mentioned a moment ago, or the cleavage girl you mentioned in your old post that you just linked me to. I think it's dumb when women complain about these sorts of situations. Your woman had options! And yet she chose to wear clothing which showed off her shapely breasts. If she doesn't like older men staring at 'em, okay, but it's a free country and I'd rather we permitted men and women to look wherever they want to than we permitted men and women to only look where the State tells them to look. >_> She could have worn loose clothes. She could have at least worn a tight-fitting solid sweater instead of a low-cut one which showed off her nice cleavage. The fact that she wears those clothes, period, is a social declaration that she wants people to look: and it's damned fascist of our society to side with her if she says "but no, only certain people get to look. Not whites. Not Catholics. Not paupers. And definitely not ugly old men." Wtf. If she can tell me not to look, then I can tell her not to exit her house. And if that sounds ludicrous to her, good: 'cause it is ludicrous, but no more so than her telling me i don't get to look.
Cut & paste for breastmilking in public. A, not everyone looks out of sexual perversion. People find it fascinating! It's just like if they stare at you while you're eating. Does that mean they've got a boner in their pants? No! >_> Most people aren't aroused to see you down a pint of ale and inhale a battered fish in two bites, and likewise there are lots of people, especially children, who are fascinated by breastfeeding and have no sexual thoughts whatsoever about it. But even for those people who do find it erotic (*raises hand*), I don't see why they're the criminal for looking. I welcome women feeding their children in public. I have no opposition to breastfeeding. And I'm not saying it as a pervert, either, who would stand to benefit from more public breastfeedings. I'm saying it as a humanitarian and prospective parent who thinks it's FUCKED UP TO THE MAX when we live in a society that tells us that nursing (i.e. breastfeeding our young) is something of which we ought to be ashamed and with which we ought to be disgusted. WTF. Breastfeeding is no different than feeding a baby some Gerber's applesauce. A breast is intrinsically no more nor less hideous than a mouth. If it's not a crime to expose one's tongue in public, why is it a crime to show one's breasts if one is a well-endowed female? O_o I don't get our society sometimes. And this is one of the times I really don't understand why our society operates the way it does. -_-;
But that doesn't mean that I think a woman should be allowed to tell me, "You're only allowed to look if you're looking asexually. If you're looking sexually, then you're a pervert and your stares are most unwelcome." Wtf. How is being stared at a crime? And how is it that being stared at becomes different when you do it sexually from when you do it asexually if you never even TELL the woman!?!?!?!? What is she, psychic!? If she doesn't know what I'm thinking when I look, then what difference does it make!? Either ban all looking or ban none of it! @_@ And please, ban none of it: because telling people they're not allowed to look at you breastfeeding is a gross imposition of your will on all of society. You have the option to breastfeed at home and to prepare bottles ahead of schedule for the baby if you're outdoors with him/her. "I don't want to do that," you may complain. "That's such an inconvenience. D:" Yeah? Well tough shit: grow up, take some responsibility, and quit forcing others to change how they operate when the problem is yours and the solution to it is also yours! Either breastfeed in public like you have been doing and quit bitching if people look, or else if it really bothers you so goddamned much then quit doing it in public! Very simple.
Gee, Sakunyuusha, did you have some bad experience with being called out for staring at someone's breasts in public?
I think part of the fun--the game--is sneaking peeks. If you want to stare, get some dark sunglasses.
I agree that everyone has a choice of what to wear, and I think women who genuinely do not want to draw attention to their breasts dress accordingly. I've heard women grumble to friends after the fact about being stared at, but you can usually tell if they're genuinely upset or in fact bragging. The woman I mentioned in that older post definitely knew what she was doing. She had an embarrassing habit of abruptly hugging me in front of colleagues. And one time, at a party, I was leaning against a wall, and she backed into me, put my arms around her (forcing me to avoid touching her breasts!) and said, "○○、不倫しようよ!" ("<My name>, let's have an affair!"). I think she was joking. She was pretty hot, but we had nothing in common, and getting involved with her would have been awkward, to say the least. Particularly since I was married at the time.
On the other extreme, a girl I knew as a kid actually had breast reduction surgery (shortly after graduating high school, if I remember correctly), because she had enormous breasts, and it was genuinely a source of grief for her.
As for public breastfeeding, I think women who are concerned about being discreet are usually pretty good at being discreet, hiding themselves with towels or shawls. And women who really feel uncomfortable about it find someplace private to do it.
I think most people don't like to be stared at (unless they find the starer attractive), but as a Caucasian living in Japan, I've become pretty inured to it.
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